美国网民评论:长征十乙火箭首次实现回收,山寨?抄袭space x(一)

For the first time,China has successfullylanded an orbital reusable booster at sea.
中国首次成功实现轨道级可重复使用助推器海上回收。
The Long March 10B is the third launcher system in the world to achieve this feat,after Falcon gin 2015 and New Glenn in 2025.
长征十号B成为继2015年猎鹰9号和2025年新格伦号之后,全球第三款实现这一壮举的运载火箭系统。
Make that the fourth launcher system.Super Heavy/Starship followed Falcon 9.Then came New Glenn.The Long MarchB is the fourth launch system to recover their booster.
这是第四款可回收火箭系统。超重型/星舰紧随猎鹰9号,随后是新格伦。长征十号B型是第四个实现助推器回收的发射系统。
mightbejelloTechnically shuttle recovered its boosters.Ariane 5 too but they didn't reuse them
严格来说,航天飞机回收了其助推器。阿丽亚娜5号也做到了,但并未重复使用它们。
Nicodemuslong1Not true.1.Space Shuttle (all propulsive elements were re-usable)Falcon-93.Super Heavy
就海上回收而言,中国将排在第六位。航天飞机、猎鹰、阿丽亚娜、电子号、格伦号,现在加上长征十号乙。
1.航天飞机(所有推进部件均可重复使用)
2.猎鹰9号
3.超重型火箭
4.Rocket Lab的电子号
5.新格伦号
6.长征系列
You missed the "successfully landed"and"at sea"parts
你漏掉了“成功着陆”和“在海上”这两部分
Nicodemuslong1Space shuttle boosters,Rocketlab Electron and New Glenn all successfullylanded at sea-not sure your point.
航天飞机助推器、Rocket Lab的Electron和New Glenn都成功在海上着陆,没太明白你想表达什么。
HerbelinRoberSplashing down in the ocean isn't really the same thing though
不过,溅落到海里可不是一回事
new glenn didn't put its payload into orbit,it was a failed launch
但新格伦号未能将有效载荷送入轨道,发射失败了
Glenn has sent a payload to mars pull up Wikipedia
新格伦号已将有效载荷送往火星,快打开维基百科看看
FrancescoNicoliThe fourth.SpaceX also landed Super Heavy.
Spacex还成功着陆了超重型助推器。
That's a great idea.It essentally gives the rocket room for error in the landing by making the catch movable onthe X-Y axis.
好主意。这本质上是通过让捕获装置能在X-Y轴上移动,为火箭着陆提供了容错空间。
I can't believe this.I half jokingly suggested this mechanism on spacex subreddit like 10 or 11 years
真不敢相信。大约10或11年前,我在半开玩笑地提出过这个机制。
it's a more robust design
依我看……这个设计更稳健
中国人看到了你的想法哈哈
I actually prefer this system..&is the type of approach that I would have pursued.Just way more forgiving
我其实更喜欢这个系统……这也是我会采取的方式。容错率高得多……
I'm shocked that people think this is the result of technology theft or something else.I don't understand why China couldn't have created it themselves.It took Musk a while because he assembled a team of enthusiasts(many of whom had no aerospace experience)….我很震惊,居然有人认为这是技术窃取或其他什么的结果。我不明白为什么中国不能自己创造出来。马斯克花了一段时间,因为他组建了一支由爱好者组成的团队(其中许多人没有航空航天经验)
who practically reinvented the rocket and engines andhow they worked.China,on the other hand,had its own agency with experience with engines and its own knowledge base;all they really had to do was program the rocket and itsthrust at each stage and altitude.几乎重新发明了火箭和发动机及其工作原理的是他们。而中国则拥有自己的航天机构,具备发动机经验和独立的知识体系;他们真正需要做的,只是为火箭在每个阶段和高度编程设定推力。
Programmers and mathematicians in China are even better than in the US(check out the latest math competitions).What can be understood,for example,with electric cars-China can easily steal the idea(Musk's electric cars),throwin a ton of government support,
中国的程序员和数学家甚至比美国的更厉害(看看最新的数学竞赛就知道了)。比如电动车,中国可以轻松“借鉴”马斯克的创意,再砸进海量的国家支持,
and polish the technology until everything is perfect.Chinese electric cars are cheaper and more technologicallyadvanced than Tesla(Tesla itself even buys batteries from BYD).
并不断打磨技术,直至完美。中国电动汽车比特斯拉更便宜、技术更先进(就连特斯拉自己也从比亚迪采购电池)。
That is why he was able to do,not despite but because he assembled ateam of people who faced the problem differently that industry “experts”-experts who had never tried this
正因如此,他才能做到—不是尽管,而是因为他组建了一支与行业“专家”看待问题方式截然不同的团队,而那些专家从未真正尝试过此事
China copying SpaceX again...but with a net like a cheap fishing boat."First"after 10 years behind?Cute propaganda win.
中国又在抄Spacex了……不过用的是像廉价渔船一样的网。落后十年才搞出个“首次”?真是可爱的宣传胜利。
Ive said this before and ill say it again--they may be copying SpaceX but theres only but so many ways to land arocket.If they move to a reusable vehicle,well then say they stole our space shuttle designWhat do they do?Ⅲl say this:Switzerland has no monopoly on watches.
我之前说过,现在再说一遍——他们或许在模仿Spacex,但火箭着陆的方式也就那么几种如果他们改用可重复使用的飞行器,我们就会说他们偷了我们的航天飞机设计他们是做什么的?我只想说:瑞士并非手表的垄断。
less efficient,because the heavy catching arm got to be a land based system meaning you can't move it tothe high seato save fuel for the lift SpaceX
效率较低,因为重型捕获臂必须是陆基系统,这意味着无法将其移至公海以节省升空燃料。
Where is your rocketDoes your country have any rocket plan even ppt
你的火箭在哪里?你们国家有任何火箭计划吗,哪怕是PPT也行?
chase_da_birdieBlue origin patented propulsive sea landings years before spacex landed the first booster on a droneship,so actually spaceX copied the idea from blue origin
蓝色起源早在Spacex首次将助推器降落在无人船上之前,就申请了海上推进着陆的专利,所以实际上是Spacex抄袭了蓝色起源的创意
snhcyyI don'tknow if Musk has shared any technology with China's space program.But what I do know is that Chinese engineers have been working hard to catch up,rather than spending all day bragging in the media or typing away on a keyboard like you.
我不知道马斯克是否与中国航天项目分享过任何技术。但我知道的是,中国工程师一直在努力追赶,而不是像你一样整天在媒体上吹嘘或在键盘上敲个不停。
尼日尼亚?快从树上下来,有香蕉给你吃
What does Nigeria have?Is plagiarism your excuse for your own incompetence?
尼日利亚又有什么呢?抄袭是你对自己无能的说辞吗?
尼日尼亚肯定有很厉害的太空技术吧。尼日尼亚的5颗卫星,3颗是俄罗斯发射的,2颗是中国发射的,你不脸红吗?我的黑人朋友
Rocket recovery technology is not Musk's original invention.So who is Elon copy from?
火箭回收技术并非马斯克的原创。那么,埃隆是抄袭了谁?
your country won't even dare to dream about it
你的国家连想都不敢想
非洲国家有资格对中国科技指手画脚!?
NIGGAWHAT DO YOU HAVE?go eat more fried chicken and stop talking
黑鬼你到底有什么?去吃更多炸鸡,别说话了
So China is about 2 years away from SpaceX
所以中国距离Spacex还有大约两年
China is actually 2 light years away from the whole west,it's in another universe,just forget about it
中国其实离整个西方有2光年远,简直在另一个宇宙,别想了
maiettaI'm convinced SpaceX builds around alien technology.
我坚信Spacex是围绕外星技术打造的。
neo_bagginsTry 11 years,but this catch method,while somewhat novel,is far more precarious than traditionallanding legs or Starship chopsticks.Granted,it's easier to achieve,but you're one cable snap away from severely damaged infrastructure.Ala Blue Origin.Admittedly,the risk is there for starship as well,but SpaceX has an,as yet,perfect trackrecord of success with its catches.Much like Blie Origin,this feat is far less impressive when you realize how farbehind they both still are.This isn't comparable to Starship.It's only semi close comparison is Falcon g in 2015
尝试了11年,但这种回收方式虽有些新颖,却远比传统的着陆腿或星舰的“筷子”夹持更危险。诚然,它更容易实现,但只要一根缆绳断裂,基础设施就会严重受损。蓝源就是这样。必须承认,星舰也面临类似风险,但Spacex至今在回收方面保持着完美的成功记录。就像蓝源一样,当你意识到两者都还远远落后时,这一成就就没那么令人印象深刻了。这根本无法与星舰相提并论,唯一勉强能比的只有2015年的猎鹰9号。
not really.this launch and land method is decades old.the reality is that spacex was the one company that had the balls to do it and the reason they want to do it is simply cost.that being said,the Chinese are doing it so eventually it rolls over into their government sector.
也不尽然。这种发射并回收的方法已有数十年历史。事实是,Spacex是唯一有胆量去做的公司,而他们这么做的原因很简单:成本。话虽如此,中国也在推进这项技术,最终会应用到其领域。
Pawg_AlfChina is ahead if youtake into account theirs doesn't explode
如果考虑到他们的不会爆炸,那中国就领先了
China was 20 years away from electrical cars.Now they are the no 1 producer and exporter.
20年前,中国还距离电动汽车很遥远。如今,他们已成为头号生产国和出口国。
Space X will never going to launch the Starship.
Spacex永远不会发射星舰。
You're overthinking it.The ability to recycle and reuse repeatedly,and to reduce costs,hasn't been proven yet.Besides,Musk is already profitable.Whether you can repeatedly recycle is still unproven;there's at least a 10-yearg apto go.
你想多了。反复回收再利用并降低成本的能力尚未得到证实。况且,马斯克已经盈利了。能否实现重复回收仍属未知,至少还有10年的路要走。
as a Chinese vpn user and a cn millitary engineeriworked 27yrs for pla space force as for my glory motherland,itook part in manykey project like DF41and 6th gen jet.this is AI,no need to worry,we far behind,the rocked burns coal,too much smoke,cant catch
作为一名中国人,我为荣耀的祖国效力了27年,参与了东风41和六代机等众多关键项目。这是AI生成的,无需担心,我们远远落后,那个火箭还在烧煤,烟太大,追不上的。
China is leading the world for stealing/copying the tech from other countries.
中国正通过窃取、抄袭从其他国家获取技术,从而领先世界。
looked at the posts replying to this,MSM did a great jobto make China an enemy,most replies are close to sour grapes.Don't underestimate China.They are an industrial giant.
看了很多文章,主流媒体成功把中国塑造成了敌人,大多数回复都像是吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸。别低估中国,他们可是工业巨头。
Americans are going to cope their way out of relevance if they keep this attitude up.I'm enjoying it,personally.
如果美国人继续这种态度,他们只会靠自我安慰逐渐变得无关紧要。我个人倒是很享受这一幕。
Yes,all stolen and fraud tech.
是的,全是窃取和欺诈的技术。
They are bullshit artists.
他们就是满嘴跑火车的骗子。
wang1644This is the perspective of the sea,and China's technology cost is lower.
这是海上的视角,而且中国的技术成本更低。
HughEverettI wonder where they got that idea?China hasn't invented anything since the firecracker in the gth century.
我很好奇他们是从哪儿搞到这个创意的?中国自9世纪发明火药以来,就再没搞出过什么新东西了。
Bs.Don't bring petty nationalism into a wonderful milestone for these engineers
胡扯,别把狭隘的民族主义带进这些工程师取得的辉煌里程碑中。
You're right.That's why the F47 can't be manufactured,China stole it!
你说得对。这就是F47无法量产的原因,中国把它偷走了!
You need to get informed,running them down does not work anymore.
你需要去了解情况,光靠打压已经行不通了。
Oh snap.I bet they are really butthurt now after they heard your racism onx.
哎哟。我敢打赌,他们在×上听到你的种族主义言论后,现在肯定气急败坏了。
Yes they have-consumer drones for instance.There was no such industry before DJI.
是的,他们有的—比如消费级无人机。在大疆之前,根本没有这样的行业。
they are inventing cheaper ways to do it tho lol
不过他们正在发明更便宜的方法来做这件事,哈哈
mightbejelloEngineer seeing rocket and thinks"HMM how can I reuse this"yeah bro it's just an one of a kind idea
工程师看到火箭,心想“嗯,怎么重复利用它呢”。没错兄弟,这真是个独一无二的创意
How about EV Blade Batteries,advanced drone obstacle avoidance system,6Gtelecom networks,AI assisted flight,Tri-fold smartphone,CR450 high speed train,Certified autonomous passenger eVTOL air taxis,floating solar plants,quantum communication satellites?
刀片电池、先进无人机避障系统、6G通信网络、AI辅助飞行、三折叠智能手机、CR450高铁、获认证的自动驾驶载人eVTOL空中出租车、漂浮式光伏电站、量子通信卫星,这些怎么样?
China has recently pioneered the Chang'e-6 far-side Moon sample return,DeepSeek AI models,commercial sodium-ionatteries,ultra-fast EV charging systems,and advanced humanoid robots.
中国近期在嫦娥六号月球背面采样返回、Deepseek AI模型、商用钠离子电池、超快电动汽车充电系统以及先进人形机器人等领域取得了开创性进展。
谁在乎?如今造车的不止奔驰先生一人。
must be heart breaking for youto see this
看到这一幕,玻璃心一定碎了一地。
Where did the U.S get the idea of a rocket from?
美国的火箭理念源自何处?
The thing about being the first mover is that others will try to copy the product/service to get a piece of that market.
先发者的困境在于,其他人会试图复制你的产品或服务,以分得一杯市场羹。
It looks like AI to me.Can't trust anything that comes out of
这看起来像是AI生成的。来自中G的任何东西都不可信。
dont be retarded---we can be competitive and want our team to win without being dumb.this is a big accomplishment for them and is good for humanity--it will push america to do more which we need.
别犯傻了一我们可以保持竞争力、希望球队获胜,而不必做蠢事。这对他们来说是一项重大成就,也造福人类——这将推动美国采取更多行动,而这正是我们所需要的。
I′m not sure if I actually believe anything that China claims.That could have easily been AI generated.
我不确定自己是否真的相信中国声称的任何事情。那完全可能是AI生成的。
This is clearly not AI.What I would worry instead is how they were able to achieve this.Given their severe,government-sanctioned,espionage.Hundreds of space companies exist in China,wouldn't surprise me if one was able to infiltrate and compromise some SpaceX data.
这显然不是AI。我更担心的是他们是如何做到这一点的。鉴于其严重的、政府批准的间谍活动,中国有数百家航天公司,如果其中一家能够渗透并窃取一些Spacex的数据,我一点也不惊讶。
"Clearly NOT AI"?They had better graphics in 1970's Godzilla movies.
“显然不是AI”?1970年代哥斯拉电影的特效都比这好。
robert_baiguanChina will prefer you folks not to believe it.
中国更希望你们别信。
yttrium81639500It absolutely is AI shit,China the country itself is also an AT illusion,it never exists in reality.Trust me bro
这绝对是AI生成的垃圾,中国这个国家本身也是AI制造的幻象,现实中根本不存在。信我,
dream_greeceYes please ignore China.We are just poor peasants.Go start a war with Russia and Iran.America no 1!
是的,请无视中国。我们只是贫穷的农民。去跟俄罗斯和伊朗开战吧。美国第一!
Agree as we know all top AI researchers in both America and China are Chinese,they surely easily use AI to foolAmericans hahaha
同意—众所周知,中美两国的顶尖AI研究员都是华人,他们肯定能轻松用AI忽悠美国人,哈
you canknock their space station to check if there are people inside
你可以敲一下他们空间站的门,看看里面有没有人
They do corporate espionage and steal our tech all the time,not that suprised
他们一直在搞商业间谍活动,窃取我们的技术,这并不令人惊讶
Txstmom2009It looks like AI to me.Scales all messed up,it's blurry and it seemsto land outside of the circle if that is where it is suppose to land.play enough video games you can dechiper what is AI and what is not.
看起来像是AI生成的。比例全乱了,画面模糊,而且如果它本该落在圆圈内,现在却落到了外面。游戏玩多了,你就能分辨出什么是AI,什么不是。
More likely they just stole the data and intellectual property needed to land a booster.
更有可能的是,他们只是窃取了用于回收助推器所需的数据和知识产权。
uforgot something important -best video gen AI is made by Chinese
你忘了件重要的事一最好的视频生成AI是中国造的
Heureusement que la Chine t'emmerde et ne te demande rien du tout.
幸好中国不待见你,也根本懒得理你。
The cope is mind bending
这自我安慰简直让人脑洞大开
The idea is pretty good.I actually think this is very believable
这个想法很不错,我确实觉得非常可信。
While Trump is busy with Iran.China surprising world on weekly basis.
特朗普正忙于伊朗事务,而中国却每周都在给世界带来惊喜。
SpaceX first successful orbital booster landing was in Dec.2015
SpaceX首次成功实现轨道级助推器回收是在2015年12月。
suppot RU and IRANis not a easy thing
支持俄罗斯和伊朗绝非易事
False
假的
So what's actually holding the rocket in place if it's not in the arms?
那么,如果火箭不在那些机械臂上,那究竟是什么把它固定住的?
HungNguyenTuanits a structure of Lines,which hold the rocked by specific points to reduce the potential mechanical error that would occur with rigid structure of arms
这是一种由线条构成的结构,通过特定点进行摇动支撑,以减少刚性臂结构可能产生的机械误差
kjellerlingbuda4 cables,that move sideways to look around the rocket so it can hang from its steering fins.This is a improvement on the way SpaceX did it with falcon,since the rocket don't have to use wight of it feet.Starship is also without feet.
4根缆绳,可横向移动以观察火箭四周,使其能悬挂在转向鳍上。这是对Spacex猎鹰火箭方式的改进,因为火箭无需依靠支腿的重量。星舰也没有支腿。
It lands in some kind of net
它掉进了某种网里
This is a device that prevents the rocket from shaking after recovery.
这是一款防止火箭回收后发生晃动的装置。
It's China engineering
这是中国工程
And still makes it look like a temu version of spacex.
看起来还是Spacex的拼多多平替版。
Why haven't we done this yet?If the Temu Chinese can do it then surely the mighty Brits of Oxford and Cambridge have their own space station and could do this in their sleep?Let's see the video Il be waiting mate
我们怎么还没做到?如果中国的拼多多版都能行,那牛津和剑桥的英国大佬们肯定早就有自己的空间站,闭着眼都能搞定吧?坐等视频,兄弟!
We are looking at building launch sites but in uk weather is extremely negative to launches.Hence why we launch from mainland Europe or States.
主要是资金原因。还有天气。我们正在考察建设发射场,但英国的天气对发射极为不利。这就是为什么我们从欧洲大陆或美国发射。
If only the UK had an Island...ets say near the equator...and it was in the middle of say...the Indian Ocean..that was used as a military base exclusively so there isn't any risk of civilian casualties..they could launch rockets!
要是英国有个岛就好了……比如说在赤道附近……位于印度洋……专门用作基地,这样就没有平民伤亡的风险……他们就能发射火箭了!
解释越多,自信越少
那你们的航空母舰现在状况如何?用上电磁弹射了吗?有充足的维护吗?那可是历史悠久的大英帝国皇家海军
Yeah right,the fact that you even said Temu space x'strips you of any credibility it's a tiredjoke with no base in reality.In real life China is the pacing threat has already long surpassed us and is taken seriously by the us
得了吧,你居然说出”拼多多版Spacex”这种话,直接让你毫无可信度可言。这梗早就烂了,完全脱离现实。现实中,中国才是那个步调紧迫的威胁,早已远超我们,并且被美国严肃对待。
Made_In_LangleyYour country doesn't even have any version of spaceX.
你们国家任何版本的Spacex都没有。
We dont need it,we have ESA.And we work with spacex.
我们不需要它,我们有ESA。我们与Spacex合作。
Yfc_1983spaceX is less efficient,because the heavy catching arm got to be a land based system meaning you can't move it tothe high seato save fuel for the lift
SpaceX效率较低,因为重型捕获臂必须是陆基系统,无法移至公海以节省升空燃料
The arm isnt required on their sea platform as they dont need it,the booster has legsto land on.That booster didnt look as big as heavy
他们的海上平台不需要机械臂,因为助推器自带着陆腿。那个助推器看起来没那么笨重
but spaceX's sea platform require big heavy legs,and alot more fuel to hoover to get the precise landing spot,more vulunerable to winds ete..this is an improvement over spaceX
但Spacex的海上平台需要巨大的重型支腿,悬停定位需消耗更多燃料,且更易受风力等影响……这比Spacex有所改进。
To a degree true.How ever,why require a platform with a bracing structure,when they have said legs and are able to land in sequenceor even tandem with out issue(many times)
某种程度上是真的。不过,既然它们有腿,而且已经多次能够依次甚至并排降落且毫无问题,为什么还需要一个带支撑结构的平台呢?
Also in regards to wind,its not the main issue,as the boosters with or without bracing structure would need calm(ish)winds.….but more importantly steady season,though spacex has landed in choppy wave and swell.
关于风的问题,其实不是主要症结。无论助推器有无支撑结构,都需要相对平静的风力……但更重要的是海况要稳定,尽管Spacex曾在波涛汹涌的海面上成功着陆。
没有就是没有!欧洲或美国共同取得的成就,不会变成英国自己的功绩。英国那个通过数个世纪的侵略、战争、殖民和掠夺各大洲而建立起来的强国,如今竟沦落至此。真是可耻!!
那你们的航空母舰现在状况如何?用上电磁弹射了吗?有充足的维护吗?那可是历史悠久的大英帝国皇家海军
Yeah right, the fact that you even said Temu space x'strips you of any credibility it's a tiredjoke with no base in reality. In real life China is the pacing threat has already long surpassed us and is taken seriously by the us
得了吧,你居然说出”拼多多版 Spacex"这种话,直接让你毫无可信度可言。这梗早就烂了,完全脱离现实。现实中,中国才是那个步调紧迫的威胁,早已远超我们,并且被美国严肃对待。
Made In_LangleyYour country doesn't even have any version of spaceX
你们国家任何版本的Spacex都没有
We dont need it, we have ESA.And we work with spacex.
我们不需要它,我们有ESA。我们与 Spacex合作。
Made In LangleyNo means no! Things achieved collectively by Europe or by the U.S. do not become Britain's own accomplishments.that built its power for centuries throughinvasion, wars, colonialism,and the plundering of several continents hasnow fallen to such a state.Truly shameful!
没有就是没有!欧洲或美国共同取得的成就,不会变成英国自己的功绩。英国那个通过数个世纪的侵略、战争、殖民主义和掠夺各大洲而建立起来的强国,如今竟沦落至此。真是可耻!
I'm on X,so I work with Musk.
我在X上,所以我和马斯克是同事。
spaceX is less efficient,because the heavy catching arm got to be a land based system meaning you can't move it tothe high seato save fuel for theliftSpaceX
效率较低,因为重型捕获臂必须是陆基系统,无法移至公海以节省升空燃料
The arm isnt required on their sea platform as they dont need it, the booster has legsto land on.That booster didnt look as big as heavy
他们的海上平台不需要机械臂,因为助推器自带着陆腿。那个助推器看起来没那么笨重
but spaceX's sea platform require big heavy legs,and alot more fuelto hoover to get the precise landing spot, more vulunerable to winds ete..this is an improvement over spaceX
但Spacex的海上平台需要巨大的重型支腿,悬停定位需消耗更多燃料,且更易受风力等影响……这比 Spacex有所改进。
To a degree true.How ever, why require a platform with a bracing structure, when they have said legs and are able to land in sequenceor even tandem with out issue(many times)某种程度上是真的。不过,既然它们有腿,而且已经多次能够依次甚至并排降落且毫无问题,为什么还需要一个带支撑结构的平台呢?
Also in regards to wind,its not the main issue,as the boosters with or without bracing structure would need calm(ish) winds…but more importantly steady season, though spacex has landed in choppy wave and swell.
关于风的问题,其实不是主要症结。无论助推器有无支撑结构,都需要相对平静的风力……但更重要的是海况要稳定,尽管Spacex曾在波涛汹涌的海面上成功着陆。
You know you from England
你知道你来自英国
sgoodYour shithole country couldn't dream of doing this any time soon.
你们那个破国家短期内连想都别想做到这种
40 years and nothing changed,stagnant and slowly dying 40
年过去了,一切如故,停滞不前,正慢慢走向消亡
its are a bunch of losers
英国人是一群失败者
英国是落后的没落国家,瘪三
Even if it does come from China,gotta give credit where credit is due,it's a pretty difficult thing to nail.And hopefully less of their boosters will drop on random villages now.
何以见得?即便它确实来自中国,该夸还是得夸,这事儿真不好搞定。希望以后他们的助推器别再掉到随机村庄里了。
Verytrue.Happy for em.But still outelassed by a long way.
确实。替他们开心。但依然被远远甩在身后。
Well temu is known for quantity, so it will not be one rocket.
毕竟拼多多以量大著称,所以绝不止一枚火箭。
That's a huge compliment.Temu is incredibly successful.If they can have the Temu of access to space that's a win
这可是极高的赞誉。Temu 取得了巨大成功。如果他们能打造出太空领域的"Temu",那将是一场胜利。
kc41165You don't understand this technology which is much more advanced than SpaceX because the rocket doesn't need a complicatedlanding gear,thus save a lot of weight for the real payload.Also, this tech has bigger fault tolerance ratethan SpaceX because the catching net can make adjustment for small deviations.
你还没搞懂这项技术,它比 Spacex更先进:火箭无需复杂的起落架,从而为有效载荷省下大量重量。此外,该技术的容错率也更高,因为捕获网能对小偏差进行自动调整。
have one?I hate China just as much as the other guy but you wiggas really need to understand it's not yourworld anymore. The Asians are coming and all you can do is whine英国有吗?我和其他人一样讨厌中国,但你们这些白人真的需要明白,这世界已不再属于你们。亚洲人正在崛起,而你们只会抱怨。
know there will always be some losers say so,no superise but what can you expect from a shit stick country
是啊,我知道总有些卢瑟会这么说,毫不意外,但你对一个垃圾国家还能有什么指望呢?
it will be a lot better and cheaper than overpriced ebay junk space x
这会比 Spacex种在ebay出售的高价垃圾好得多,也便宜得多
europeans doing what?spitting nonsense?
欧洲人都在干嘛?胡说八道吗?
so funny to hear this from someone living inloser nation that can't build anything
听到一个住在“失败者之国”、什么都建不起来的人说这话,真是太搞笑了
mightbejelloCope bro they're catching up
别嘴硬了兄弟,他们快追上来了
barrostomThese retarded nafo fellas,tired of giving the cringiest opinions about ukraine,now have set their focus on China.They never seem to run out of bad takes.这些蠢货NAFO家伙,厌倦了对乌克兰发表最尴尬的言论,现在把矛头对准了中国。他们似乎总有说不完的烂观点。
Congratulations China!Copying older booster catching methods places you 12 years behind SpaceX.
恭喜中国!抄袭旧的助推器回收方法,会让你落后 Spacex整整12年。
country like China shouldn't be worried about reusability. They are just showing they can copy if they want to.
像中国这样的国家不该担心可重复使用性。他们只是在展示,只要愿意,他们就能复制。
Copying old tech, that's their best business.
复制旧技术,那是他们最擅长的生意。
0SteveLonqNot a race, mate.
伙计,这可不是比赛
Not in this field.But if you don't think the West and the Chinese are in a AI race, then Ithink you need to recalibrate yourself.
在这个领域不是。但如果你不认为西方和中国正在进行一场 AI竞赛,那我觉得你需要重新校准一下自己的认知了。
you are incredibly arrogant, this catch method is unique and has never been attempted before(starship's a differentone).
你太傲慢了,这种回收方式是独一无二的,此前从未尝试过(星舰的情况不同)。
rogemcy當初嘲笑BYD
20 years ahead of NASA, Russia, Japan,and the European Space Agency.
领先NASA、俄罗斯、日本和欧洲航天局20年
g useslanding legs for recovery,while Long March 10B uses a rope-net recovery system. How can this be defined as copying?
猎鹰9号使用着陆腿进行回收,而长征十号B型采用绳网回收系统。这怎么能算抄袭呢?
And it is prohibited to copy? Go away youloser
谁禁止抄袭了?滚吧,你这个失败者
his rocket China took two yearsto build while spacex took more than 10years
但这枚火箭中国只用了两年就造好了,而Spacex花了十多年
the plan for starship…
呃…这就是星舰的计划
Now they're where the US/SpaceX was in 2015.Also,why does this look like a shitty old PS cutscene?Atleast SpaceXand Blue Origin and NASA give us crisp, clear-as-crystal footage.
现在他们处于2015年美国/Spacex的水平。另外,为什么这看起来像一段烂透了的老版PS过场动画?至少 Spacex、蓝色起源和 NASA给我们提供的是清晰如水晶般的画面。
BothSideNah, they're where the US SpaceX is NOW cuz the US/SpaceX didn't make any significant new progress since 2015
不,他们处于现在美国/Spacex的水平,因为自2015年以来,美国Spacex并没有取得任何重大新进展
not even, they're standard and safety standard are shit
笑死,甚至算不上,它们就是普通货色,而且安全标准烂透了
Long ofSeveral more Chinese commercial space companies are set to conduct similar rocket launch and recovery tests later this year.
今年晚些时候,还有多家中国商业航天公司计划进行类似的火箭发射与回收测试。
China's commercial space sector is striving to catch up with the United States; while a significant gap remains andtechnological approaches differ,companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin serve as the benchmarks. China is mobilizing national resources,fostering collaboration between large state-owned aerospace enterprises and private firms specializing in launch services and satellite manufacturing.
中国商业航天正奋力追赶美国;尽管差距依然显著且技术路径不同,但Spacex和 Blue Origin 仍是标杆。中国正调动全国资源,推动大型国有航天企业与专注于发射服务和卫星制造的民营企业协同合作。
0A new era for China's space industry begins this year
中国航天产业的新纪元今年开启
So they stole SpaceXtechnology? Gotcha.
所以他们偷了Spacex的技术?明白了。
You're saying the electricity you're using now is also stealing from British scientist Faraday's invention? Just throw away your phone then.
你是说你现在用的电也是偷英国科学家法拉第的发明?那干脆把手机扔了吧。
Hey genius what SpaceX rocket lands on wires in the ocean
嘿,天才,哪枚 SpaceX 火箭会降落在海上的缆绳上?
stole nobody's tech. They learned and built.
没人偷谁的技术。他们只是学习并构建
Which SpaceX rocket is capable of being recovered at sea? Tell me.
哪款 SpaceX 火箭具备海上回收能力?告诉我。
Hello……Are you a fan of Elon Musk
你好…你是埃隆·马斯克的粉丝吗?
Its_erekoUnlike SpaceX drone ships, which feature an open,flat landing pad, the Chinese recovery barge shown here utilizes amassive grid-like scaffolding structure. This design is likely built to catch or stabilize the booster immediatelyupon or just before touchdownto mitigate the rocking motion of sea swells
与 Spacex配备开放式平坦着陆平台的无人船不同,图中所示的中国回收驳船采用了巨大的网格状脚手架结构。该设计很可能旨在在助推器触地瞬间或触地前将其捕获或稳定,以减轻海浪引起的摇晃。
MAllenBidwellIt also negates the need for heavy & complicated deployable legs. Saves fuel,mfg time & cost
这也省去了对笨重且复杂的可展开支腿的需求,节省了燃料、制造时间和成本。
do they need such a large structure?We just drop it on a barge.
他们为什么需要这么大的结构?我们直接把它扔到驳船上就行了。
Make the things that has to take off as light as possible, have landbased structures do the job wherever possible.No landing legs is a step make it lighter
让必须起飞的东西尽可能轻,尽可能让地面设施来完成工作。没有着陆腿是让它更轻的一步
This one use net capture. It will reduce mechanical structure mass and be more cost effective
这个方案采用网捕技术,能降低机械结构质量,更具成本效益。
Seems like it might be usable in a wider range of conditions.
看起来它可能适用于更广泛的条件。
They build so much stuff it hardly even matters, the cost won't matter to them and the toward-obxtive - wildly reducing the cost of accessto space -more than pays for steel on terra.Besides:there's always more than 1wayto skin a cat.
他们造的东西太多了,这点东西根本无关紧要,成本对他们来说也不值一提。毕竟,大幅降低进入太空的成本这一目标,早已远超在地球上用掉的那些钢材的价值。再说了:条条大路通罗马。
landing legs, those junks are American only
没有着陆腿,那些垃圾只有美国才搞
the weight oflanding gear
省去了起落架的重量
Without landing legs,a massive amount of dead weight can be saved.Furthermore, China also has rockets like Zhuque-3 that are similar to the Falcong.
没有着陆腿,可以节省大量死重。此外,中国也有类似猎鹰9号的火箭,比如朱雀三号。
youland it on a barge like Falcon 9 you needlanding legs and leveling hardware plus an anchor for after landing. This way is much easier and simpler
如果像猎鹰9号那降落在驳船上,就需要着陆腿、调平硬件以及着陆后的锚定装置。这种方式要简单容易得多。
Are Chinese Rockets coal-powered?
中国的火箭是烧煤的吗?
你猜对了,必须是山西省大同市同煤集团2号井出产的无烟煤。其他地方的都不行,要不燃烧不完全,推力不够,要么燃烧过快,导致发动机损毁。
whateverfithereCOPV, carbon stufCOPV
碳纤维材料
Staging pic of today's CZ-10B's launch.May be something was ignited by the upper stage's flame in this chamber,thus the black smoke when catching
今日长征十号乙火箭发射的级间分离画面。可能是上面级火焰在该舱室内引燃了某些物质,因此在捕获时出现了黑烟。
It's not coal. It's clean coal.
不是煤,是清洁煤。
No,no,no-it's actually wood that's being burned
不,不,不—实际上烧的是木头
你说对了,你们空间站还漏气呢,还要求俄罗斯的发动机呢,笑死上帝了哈哈哈哈
是的,我们有全世界最牛逼的煤矿
并不是煤炭,那太昂贵了。我们使用的是木柴混合牛粪。
If it is true, it will be the world's most advanced technology
如果属实,这将是全球最先进的技术煤动力火箭,全球首发\
是的,我有幸参与了这个项目,下降的时候我在火箭里往燃烧炉里铲煤,这是当时我的同事给我拍的照片
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